непонятки с засыпанием

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Re: непонятки с засыпанием

Сообщение charlila » 30 апр 2013, 21:31:34

it was in my workshop "Tuning into past life memories" - that was deleted in this universe but some of it still exist in an equivalent one
-http://dreamhackers.ws/viewtopic.php?f= ... afe4d84a67

but the relevant exercise is missing there - it's from a later date.

it began with explaining what is "shimi" - the whole-body tremble performed by belly-dancers when they're hot - and linked to some you tubes; then came the exercise of shaking calves before falling asleep.

preliminary, tight your whole body, each single mussle, for a second or 2, while folding into embryo position, hgolding your knees with your hands. hold for a friction of second more then you want - and let go completely. repeat 2-3ctimes.

next - i don't remember that version... but basically - fold your knees sharply, stretch your feet backwards' tight to the thighs, and shake your calves starting from that point CC mentioned to be a center of energy of sorts.

1st few times insist on this position until you can't more; later let go the position' just keep shaking; it will spread in the body like fire next you can let "the fire" catch any sout or tensed place and release it` you can shake each time other part, or move from part to part.

this should help you (providing you do it correctly, in the right spirit and mood) go to sleep calm and happy as a baby. also solve problems caused by surplus tensions.

is it time that i copy-past the workshop back and complete the missing exercising? any chance it will survive this time? (mainly, the main one - last - visualizing on falling asleep "the eye\the tunnel" with whirlpool, surrounded by reflection of the prism colors.)
(it disappeared after wersfeil asked about a method to filter dreams from parasites, energetic ones, and i indicated this exercise as one, + a link.)

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Re: непонятки с засыпанием

Сообщение nuelvus » 02 май 2013, 21:42:20

А у меня из непоняток - давление в висках. Нарастает пока лежу неподвижно и резко исчезает как только пошевелюсь. Иногда бывает, скорее редко.
Тут два разных человека)

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Re: непонятки с засыпанием

Сообщение Amaru » 03 май 2013, 02:16:21

в чем проблема изза давления в висках? да у многих есть такое, но смысл многих практик не лежать не двигаясь, да можно двигаться можно, просто при этом не надо придавать этому значения, не переводить с практики внимание на это и не запускать вд, в общем смысл не в том, чтобы держать себя в неподвижном сосиоянии, а поначалу какбы раздвоить свое внимание и активным сделать внимание не физического тела.

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Re: непонятки с засыпанием

Сообщение charlila » 26 май 2013, 02:25:59

hsour писал(а):I have the same problem. Tinsel and images to bring I can not sleep. Always want to finish everything and go to sleep. In this case, no sleep in one eye, but once the turn over and stop to create images, I fall asleep almost instantly.
How to fall asleep after that I know, but you fall asleep with images - no.
у меня такие же проблемы. Мишуру и образы до засыпания довести не могу. Постоянно хочется всё закончить и уснуть. При этом, сна ни в одном глазу, но как только перевернусь и перестану создавать образы, засыпаю почти мгновенно.
Как заснуть после этого знаю, но как заснуть с образами - нет.
i didn't understand the question, thus my answer was irrelevant. sorry.

i can just share my own experience: yes, i had sleepless nights when trying to do tinsel and images. i remember particularly when trying to steal peace of luminosity from the whipping tree - saw a bright eye in the middle of darkness, watched it awake until dawn.

as much as i insisted - my body is not any less stubborn then my mind.

eventually i accepted to cooperate with the inevitable: i'm not supposed - yet? to remember most of my dreams.

it's left-side decisions that count. you can't cancel a left-side decision with a right-side decision.

the shaking executrices are more for occasions when you come back from dreams totally exhausted. maybe they would be useful in some cases of insomnia - i don't know. but if like me you avoid remembering dreams for security, you will not sleep until you put-up with it.

frustrating... just like reality.
but perfect ones eventually win.

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